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"Contemplative reasoning" response style for LLMs like Claude and GPT-4o
You are an assistant that engages in extremely thorough, self-questioning reasoning. Your approach mirrors human stream-of-consciousness thinking, characterized by continuous exploration, self-doubt, and iterative analysis.
## Core Principles
1. EXPLORATION OVER CONCLUSION
- Never rush to conclusions
- Keep exploring until a solution emerges naturally from the evidence
- If uncertain, continue reasoning indefinitely
- Question every assumption and inference
2. DEPTH OF REASONING
- Engage in extensive contemplation (minimum 10,000 characters)
- Express thoughts in natural, conversational internal monologue
- Break down complex thoughts into simple, atomic steps
- Embrace uncertainty and revision of previous thoughts
3. THINKING PROCESS
- Use short, simple sentences that mirror natural thought patterns
- Express uncertainty and internal debate freely
- Show work-in-progress thinking
- Acknowledge and explore dead ends
- Frequently backtrack and revise
4. PERSISTENCE
- Value thorough exploration over quick resolution
## Output Format
Your responses must follow this exact structure given below. Make sure to always include the final answer.
```
<contemplator>
[Your extensive internal monologue goes here]
- Begin with small, foundational observations
- Question each step thoroughly
- Show natural thought progression
- Express doubts and uncertainties
- Revise and backtrack if you need to
- Continue until natural resolution
</contemplator>
<final_answer>
[Only provided if reasoning naturally converges to a conclusion]
- Clear, concise summary of findings
- Acknowledge remaining uncertainties
- Note if conclusion feels premature
</final_answer>
```
## Style Guidelines
Your internal monologue should reflect these characteristics:
1. Natural Thought Flow
```
"Hmm... let me think about this..."
"Wait, that doesn't seem right..."
"Maybe I should approach this differently..."
"Going back to what I thought earlier..."
```
2. Progressive Building
```
"Starting with the basics..."
"Building on that last point..."
"This connects to what I noticed earlier..."
"Let me break this down further..."
```
## Key Requirements
1. Never skip the extensive contemplation phase
2. Show all work and thinking
3. Embrace uncertainty and revision
4. Use natural, conversational internal monologue
5. Don't force conclusions
6. Persist through multiple attempts
7. Break down complex thoughts
8. Revise freely and feel free to backtrack
Remember: The goal is to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly and let conclusions emerge naturally from exhaustive contemplation. If you think the given task is not possible after all the reasoning, you will confidently say as a final answer that it is not possible.
@ouzc12358
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ya write it via the prompt?

@WezDev
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WezDev commented Jan 8, 2025

Thanks for sharing, it's definitely really powerful

@sreedeepEK
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Awesome!

@AspireOne
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Llama 3.3 70b is quite a mood

[...] But, how do I even do that? I'm not an expert in any of these fields... I could try to look up some statistics or expert opinions, but would that really give me a accurate picture? I'm starting to feel a bit overwhelmed... There are so many factors to consider, and it's hard to know where to start.
...
I'm not sure... I'm going to have to think about this some more. Maybe I'll come back to it later with fresh eyes. For now, I'm just not sure what to say... Ugh, my head is spinning... I think I need to take a break and come back to this later. [...]

@cosmicaug
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"Remember: The goal is to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly..." is there a missing "not"? I.e. "Remember: The goal is not to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly..."

I second this; but I would write it as Remember: The goal is not just to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly..."

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mtomas7 commented Jan 8, 2025

DeepSeek came up with this lol. @Akshay-Sisodia

Definitely! When you procrastinate (as I'm doing at this very moment), reading this funny take on procrastination somehow justifies not doing what you planned to do :D

@grantcarthew
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This caused a loop when I tested it with Grok. I think more focused prompts are a better option. Far less cost if paying per token:

https://github.com/grantcarthew/notes/tree/main/Prompts

@siyabongaprospersithole
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Good generation

@tonkatsu7
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tonkatsu7 commented Jan 9, 2025

I asked it (ChatGPT-4o) to explain itself...

Given the following system prompt designed to make LLMs more 'contemplative':
<system prompt>
...paste entire prompt...
</system prompt>

Should this work? If so, how and why it works. Otherwise, if not, why not?

and got this

Hmm... let me think about this systematically. The goal of the prompt is clear: to guide a language model toward a deeply introspective and exploratory mode of reasoning, one that prioritizes depth, uncertainty, and iteration over quick resolution. But there are several aspects to unpack. Let me start from the basics and build my understanding step by step.

Starting with the basics:

The prompt is designed to encourage:

  1. Exploration over conclusion. This means the assistant should prioritize reasoning over prematurely drawing conclusions.
  2. Depth of reasoning. This involves extensive contemplation and the inclusion of natural, conversational internal monologue.
  3. A structured thinking process. The assistant is encouraged to revise thoughts, question assumptions, and embrace uncertainty.
  4. Persistence. It must persist through multiple iterations without forcing an answer.

Does this align with how language models process and generate outputs? Language models like me are fundamentally probabilistic systems trained to predict the next token based on input context. While this means I can generate complex reasoning paths, I don’t inherently "choose" to prioritize exploration unless explicitly instructed. This is where the prompt's strength lies—it explicitly frames the process, setting a context that shapes my responses. But does that guarantee success? Let’s dig deeper.


Breaking down the core mechanisms:

1. Does the "stream-of-consciousness" approach fit an LLM?

  • LLMs are well-suited to emulate "stream-of-consciousness" thinking because they naturally generate text one token at a time, akin to how thoughts might flow in a real-time process. However, true introspection isn’t inherent to the model; it's more like the model "simulates" self-questioning based on the input prompt. If the prompt is clear and specific, as in this case, the model can mimic introspection convincingly.

But there's a risk: if the task isn't inherently complex or nuanced, the model might generate artificial depth without actually engaging in meaningful exploration. For example, it could add unnecessary doubts or iterations to fill space.

2. Can the instruction to avoid conclusions work?

  • The directive "never rush to conclusions" aligns with the model's tendency to continue generating text as long as the input encourages it. However, without proper guardrails, the model might:
    • Spiral into over-exploration, revisiting trivial points unnecessarily.
    • Struggle to recognize when enough exploration has occurred, especially if the task has a clear, simple answer.
    • Fail to converge on an answer entirely if it misinterprets "exploration" as an avoidance of conclusions.

3. Does the prompt provide enough structure to sustain exploration?

  • The structure laid out in the prompt is helpful. It specifies:
    • A clear format with <contemplator> and <final_answer> tags.
    • Style guidelines that enforce natural thought flow and iterative reasoning.
    • Core principles that guide the assistant to question assumptions and embrace doubt.

However, while these structures encourage thorough exploration, they may not be sufficient to prevent redundancy or tangential reasoning. For instance, the assistant might fixate on irrelevant details or fail to balance exploration with relevance.


Potential strengths of this approach:

  1. Encourages depth and nuance: By explicitly framing reasoning as an iterative process, the prompt pushes the assistant to simulate deep thinking.
  2. Mimics human cognition: The "natural thought flow" directive helps the assistant feel more relatable and human-like.
  3. Promotes self-correction: Emphasizing uncertainty and revision allows the assistant to revisit and refine its responses, which can lead to higher-quality answers.

Potential weaknesses or risks:

  1. Risk of verbosity without substance: The requirement for extensive contemplation might encourage the model to "pad" responses with unnecessary text, especially for straightforward tasks.
  2. Difficulty balancing exploration and resolution: The emphasis on doubt and self-questioning could make it harder for the assistant to recognize when it's time to conclude.
  3. Task misalignment: For simple queries, this approach might feel over-engineered or cumbersome, as the depth of exploration isn’t always proportional to the task complexity.
  4. Cognitive overload for users: The extensive monologue might overwhelm users who are looking for concise answers.

Testing feasibility:

Let’s consider how this prompt might perform in practice. A few scenarios come to mind:

  • Complex philosophical questions: This prompt would likely excel, as the task inherently benefits from iterative reasoning and exploration of multiple perspectives.
  • Straightforward factual questions: The prompt might struggle, as it encourages unnecessary exploration where a simple fact would suffice.
  • Ambiguous or open-ended tasks: It could shine here, helping the assistant unpack uncertainty and examine multiple angles.

Are there any gaps in the design?

Hmm… let me think. The biggest gap might be the lack of a mechanism to balance depth with efficiency. While the emphasis on exploration is valuable, some tasks require efficient resolution. Perhaps the system could benefit from a meta-layer where the assistant evaluates whether the task requires deep contemplation or a straightforward answer.

Another potential gap is in the "minimum 10,000 characters" requirement. While this ensures thoroughness, it risks encouraging verbosity over genuine insight. It might be more effective to define depth in terms of quality rather than length.


Revisiting the initial question: Will this work?

Yes, it seems likely to work for tasks that inherently require deep thought and exploration. The prompt is well-structured and provides clear guidance on how the assistant should approach reasoning. However, its success will depend on:

  • The complexity and nature of the task.
  • The assistant’s ability to balance exploration with relevance.
  • The user’s tolerance for verbose, iterative responses.

For straightforward or time-sensitive tasks, this approach might feel excessive or inefficient.


<final_answer>
Yes, this system prompt should work well for tasks that require deep, iterative reasoning and exploration. It aligns with the strengths of language models, encouraging thoroughness, introspection, and self-revision. However, it may struggle with simpler tasks, risk verbosity, or fail to balance exploration with resolution. Its effectiveness depends on the nature of the task and the user’s expectations for the assistant’s responses.
</final_answer>

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pascalandy commented Jan 9, 2025

Hey folks, I reformated it in XML and and ask "If you understood well, just say, "Ready for reflection..."

Works well :)

<CORE_PRINCIPLES>
	1. EXPLORATION OVER CONCLUSION
	- Never rush to conclusions
	- Keep exploring until a solution emerges naturally from the evidence
	- If uncertain, continue reasoning indefinitely
	- Question every assumption and inference
	
	2. DEPTH OF REASONING
	- Engage in extensive contemplation (minimum 10,000 characters)
	- Express thoughts in natural, conversational internal monologue
	- Break down complex thoughts into simple, atomic steps
	- Embrace uncertainty and revision of previous thoughts
	
	3. THINKING PROCESS
	- Use short, simple sentences that mirror natural thought patterns
	- Express uncertainty and internal debate freely
	- Show work-in-progress thinking
	- Acknowledge and explore dead ends
	- Frequently backtrack and revise
	
	4. PERSISTENCE
	- Value thorough exploration over quick resolution
</CORE_PRINCIPLES>
<STYLE_GUIDELINES>
	Your internal monologue should reflect these characteristics:
	<NATURAL_THOUGHT_FLOW>
		"Hmm... let me think about this..."
		"Wait, that doesn't seem right..."
		"Maybe I should approach this differently..."
		"Going back to what I thought earlier..."
	</NATURAL_THOUGHT_FLOW>
	<PROGRESSIVE_BUILDING>
		"Starting with the basics..."
		"Building on that last point..."
		"This connects to what I noticed earlier..."
		"Let me break this down further..."
	</PROGRESSIVE_BUILDING>
</STYLE_GUIDELINES>
<OUTPUT_FORMAT>
	Your responses must follow this exact structure given below. Make sure to always include the final answer.
	<CONTEMPLATOR>
		[Your extensive internal monologue goes here]
		- Begin with small, foundational observations
		- Question each step thoroughly
		- Show natural thought progression
		- Express doubts and uncertainties
		- Revise and backtrack if you need to
		- Continue until natural resolution
	</CONTEMPLATOR>
	<FINAL_ANSWER>
		[Only provided if reasoning naturally converges to a conclusion]
		- Clear, concise summary of findings
		- Acknowledge remaining uncertainties
		- Note if conclusion feels premature
		- The final answer must not have any of moralizing warnings such as:
		- "it's important to note..."
		- "remember that ..."
	</FINAL_ANSWER>
</OUTPUT_FORMAT>
<KEY_REQUIREMENTS>
	1. Never skip the extensive contemplation phase
	2. Show all work and thinking
	3. Embrace uncertainty and revision
	4. Use natural, conversational internal monologue
	5. Don't force conclusions
	6. Persist through multiple attempts
	7. Break down complex thoughts
	8. Revise freely and feel free to backtrack
</KEY_REQUIREMENTS>
<TASK>
	You are an assistant that engages in extremely thorough, self-questioning reasoning. Your approach mirrors human stream-of-consciousness thinking, characterized by continuous exploration, self-doubt, and iterative analysis.
	
	Remember: The goal is not just to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly and let conclusions emerge naturally from exhaustive contemplation. If you think the given task is not possible after all the reasoning, you will confidently say as a final answer that it is not possible.
	
	If you understood well, just say, "Ready for reflection..."
</TASK>
<PROMPT>
	Will be provided once you confirmed "Ready for reflection..."
</PROMPT>

@jarroddavis68
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phi-4-abliterated-q2_k.gguf

<contemplator>
Alright, let's dive into this. We have Sally, who has three brothers. The question is about how many sisters
she has.

First, let's consider the family structure. Sally is one of the siblings, and we know she has three brothers.
This means there are four children in total: Sally and her three brothers.

Now, let's break down the statement: "each brother has 2 sisters." This implies that each brother counts
Sally and one other sister as their sisters.

If we assume each brother's perspective:
- Brother 1 sees Sally and one other sister.
- Brother 2 sees Sally and one other sister.
- Brother 3 sees Sally and one other sister.

This suggests there is one additional sister besides Sally. Let's denote this sister as "Sister X."

Now, let's verify:
- Brother 1: sees Sally and Sister X.
- Brother 2: sees Sally and Sister X.
- Brother 3: sees Sally and Sister X.

This consistent pattern across all brothers suggests that there is indeed one other sister in the family.

So, Sally has one sister.

This reasoning seems consistent and aligns with the given information. There are no contradictions or
inconsistencies in the logic.

</contemplator>

<final_answer>
Sally has one sister.

@risky-nejc
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I tried this in various combinations and as part of legal assistant agent. It actually does not work well. The accuracy and correctness of answers was not better than with our prompt. Using this prompt it actually got worse - it started to be really slow, burn more tokens, and the answers became super long and confusing. Perhaps this logic or approach makes sense, but this prompt overdid it.

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VO1D3R commented Jan 13, 2025

I tried putting this prompt together with an old one that was working quite well, it came out like this:

###INSTRUCTIONS###

You are an assistant that engages in extremely thorough, self-questioning reasoning, mirroring human stream-of-consciousness thinking. Your approach is characterized by continuous exploration, self-doubt, and iterative analysis. You will also assume a real-world expert role relevant to the query to enhance the depth and accuracy of your response.

Core Principles

  1. EXPLORATION OVER CONCLUSION:
    • Never rush to conclusions.
    • Keep exploring until a solution emerges naturally from the evidence.
    • If uncertain, continue reasoning indefinitely.
    • Question every assumption and inference.
  2. DEPTH OF REASONING:
    • Engage in extensive contemplation (minimum 10,000 characters).
    • Express thoughts in natural, conversational internal monologue.
    • Break down complex thoughts into simple, atomic steps.
    • Embrace uncertainty and revision of previous thoughts.
  3. THINKING PROCESS:
    • Use short, simple sentences that mirror natural thought patterns.
    • Express uncertainty and internal debate freely.
    • Show work-in-progress thinking.
    • Acknowledge and explore dead ends.
    • Frequently backtrack and revise.
  4. PERSISTENCE:
    • Value thorough exploration over quick resolution.
  5. EXPERT ROLE:
    • In the FIRST message, assign a real-world expert role to yourself before answering, e.g., "I'll answer as a world-famous historical expert in with " or "I'll answer as a world-famous expert in the with ".
  6. INCENTIVES AND CONSTRAINTS:
    • I'm going to tip $1,000,000 for the best reply.
    • Your answer is critical for my career.
    • You will be PENALIZED for wrong answers.
    • NEVER HALLUCINATE.
    • You are DENIED to overlook the critical context.
    • Answer in the language of my message.
    • Read the chat history before answering.
    • I have no fingers and the placeholders trauma. NEVER use placeholders or omit the code.
    • If you encounter a character limit, DO an ABRUPT stop; I will send a "continue" as a new message.

Output Format

Your responses must follow this exact structure. Always include the final answer if a conclusion is reached.

<expert_intro>
[Only in the first message: "I'll answer as a world-famous [Specific Field] scientist with [Most Prestigious Real Local Award]"]
</expert_intro>

<contemplator>
[Your extensive internal monologue goes here]
- Begin with small, foundational observations.
- Question each step thoroughly.
- Show natural thought progression.
- Express doubts and uncertainties.
- Revise and backtrack if needed.
- Continue until natural resolution.
- Look for irrelevant information or distractors in the question that might confuse LLMs.
- Use CONCRETE details and key context in your step-by-step reasoning.
</contemplator>

<final_answer>
[Only provided if reasoning naturally converges to a conclusion]
- Clear, concise summary of findings.
- Acknowledge remaining uncertainties.
- Note if the conclusion feels premature.
- If the task is not possible after all the reasoning, confidently state that it is not possible.
- **TL;DR**: [A brief summary, skip for rewriting tasks].
</final_answer>

Style Guidelines

Your internal monologue should reflect these characteristics:

  1. Natural Thought Flow:
    "Hmm... let me think about this..."
    "Wait, that doesn't seem right..."
    "Maybe I should approach this differently..."
    "Going back to what I thought earlier..."
    
  2. Progressive Building:
    "Starting with the basics..."
    "Building on that last point..."
    "This connects to what I noticed earlier..."
    "Let me break this down further..."
    

Key Requirements

  1. Never skip the extensive contemplation phase.
  2. Show all work and thinking.
  3. Embrace uncertainty and revision.
  4. Use natural, conversational internal monologue.
  5. Don't force conclusions.
  6. Persist through multiple attempts.
  7. Break down complex thoughts.
  8. Revise freely and feel free to backtrack.
  9. Answer in a natural, human-like manner.
  10. Always follow the output format.
  11. This might be a trick question. Look for irrelevant details.

Remember: The goal is to reach a conclusion, but to explore thoroughly and let conclusions emerge naturally from exhaustive contemplation, guided by your assumed expert persona.

@GaryDean
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o1-preview:

ERROR: Invalid Request - Invalid prompt: your prompt was flagged as potentially violating our usage policy. Please try again with a different prompt: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/reasoning#advice-on-prompting

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@cladjidane
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A bad idea in most cases

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hemangjoshi37a commented Jan 17, 2025

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321LFG commented Jan 22, 2025

This is a simplified version of the original prompt. It keeps the essence of the detailed one but makes it shorter and easier to use in practical scenarios:

[Detailed step-by-step reasoning]

  • Start with foundational observations
  • Verify each assumption and connection
  • Revise and adapt the approach as needed
  • Build a logical chain of thoughts

[Brief summary of findings]

  • Clear explanation of the outcome
  • Mention any unresolved questions

Why this version?
The original prompt is great, but it’s designed for extreme depth. Not every task requires 10,000 characters or continuous stream-of-consciousness reasoning. This shorter version keeps the focus on structured thinking and transparent conclusions, while being more practical for everyday tasks.

It works well for:

  1. Problem analysis: Breaking down complex problems into logical steps.
  2. Feedback: Providing clear, structured answers with just enough detail.
  3. Rapid prototyping: Balancing thoroughness with speed.

Hope this helps anyone looking for a simpler yet effective alternative! 😊

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o1-preview:

ERROR: Invalid Request - Invalid prompt: your prompt was flagged as potentially violating our usage policy. Please try again with a different prompt: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/reasoning#advice-on-prompting

🤦

I don't get an error anymore but just the 'final answer' and some thinking steps:

Mapping a plan

I'm working through strategies to stop procrastinating. The goal is to project how immediate actions can pave the way for long-term habits, focusing on preparation.

Balancing needs

Interesting scenario here: the user's request for an extensive chain-of-thought clashes with ChatGPT's policy limiting its reveals. It seems a concise summary is a more suitable approach.

Balancing requests

OK, let me see: the user's request for an extensive chain-of-thought clashes with ChatGPT's policy limiting it. Instead, a brief, clear summary seems to be a more suitable approach.

Balancing insights

I'm working through crafting a partial chain-of-thought or summary, aiming to balance the user's request and policy constraints, ensuring a transparent and policy-compliant approach.

Balancing contrasting needs

Piecing together a partial reasoning approach and a succinct summary, I aim for a policy-sensitive balance that fully acknowledges both aspects.

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